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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 04:30:28 PDT
From: Ham-Homebrew Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Ham-Homebrew Digest V94 #179
To: Ham-Homebrew
Ham-Homebrew Digest Fri, 1 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 179
Today's Topics:
1993 IC Master $75 postpaid (USA only).
General electronics newsgroup? (3 msgs)
How make simple FM (88-108MHz) receiver? (2 msgs)
Inductance of toroids? (2 msgs)
Project Idea!
Where might I find..
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:33:27 GMT
From: fluke!swifty@beaver.cs.washington.edu
Subject: 1993 IC Master $75 postpaid (USA only).
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
I have the 1993 IC Master for sale for $75 shipped postpaid
in the United States via 4th Blass Books. Prepaid by check or
money order.
Send me email if you wish to purchase this.
--
Steve Swift, Sr. Staff Engineer
Domain: swifty@tc.fluke.COM
Voice: (206) 356-5737 (Voice mail), FAX: (206) 356-5108
UUCP: {uw-beaver,microsof,sun}!fluke!swifty
US mail: Fluke Corporation/ P.O. Box 9090/ MS 266D/ Everett WA 98206
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Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:41:08 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!news.tele.fi!news.funet.fi!sauna.cs.hut.fi!freenet.hut.fi!freenet.hut.fi!mahjelt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: General electronics newsgroup?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Are there any newsgroups for general electronic stuff? This one is the
only one I found so far, and it's far from general. I'd like to discuss
some audio circuits. Anybody know where?
-Mathias
--
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Date: 30 Jun 1994 20:54:29 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.cwru.edu!sct@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: General electronics newsgroup?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
In article <2uuli4$bgc@freenet.hut.fi>,
Mathias Hjelt <mahjelt@freenet.hut.fi> wrote:
> Are there any newsgroups for general electronic stuff?
Take a look at sci.electronics. The volume is high, but the noise level
is surprisingly low.
Stephen
--
Stephen Trier
sct@po.cwru.edu
KG8IF
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Date: Fri, 01 Jul 1994 02:10:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ns.mcs.kent.edu!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!ted!mjsilva@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: General electronics newsgroup?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
In article <2uuli4$bgc@freenet.hut.fi>, Mathias Hjelt (mahjelt@freenet.hut.fi) writes:
>
>Are there any newsgroups for general electronic stuff? This one is the
>only one I found so far, and it's far from general. I'd like to discuss
>some audio circuits. Anybody know where?
>
sci.electronics is what you want. LOTS of activity.
Mike, KK6GM
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Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:39:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!news.funet.fi!sauna.cs.hut.fi!freenet.hut.fi!freenet.hut.fi!mahjelt@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: How make simple FM (88-108MHz) receiver?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Hi, does anybody have any schematics or any stuff about how to build
a simple FM receiver (with stereo decoding)? Are there any nifty little
IC's around that contain most of the electronics?
-Mathias
--
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Date: 30 Jun 1994 16:12:26 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!sgiblab!gatekeeper.us.oracle.com!barrnet.net!nntp.crl.com!crl2.crl.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: How make simple FM (88-108MHz) receiver?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Mathias Hjelt (mahjelt@freenet.hut.fi) wrote:
: Hi, does anybody have any schematics or any stuff about how to build
: a simple FM receiver (with stereo decoding)? Are there any nifty little
: IC's around that contain most of the electronics?
Check out the Phillips (or Signetics) TDA-7000. This chip does most of
the FM receiver chore, but you will need to find another chip to do the
FM decoding.
--
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Don Miller Electronic System Products
dmiller@crl.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:48:15 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Inductance of toroids?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Mike Czuhajewski (Mike.Czuhajewski%hambbs@wb3ffv.ampr.org) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can find the formula for finding the
: inductance of a toroidal inductor? I do NOT mean the formula which is
: derived on the published "Al" values, but rather a formula based on the
: physical measurements such as height, circumferance, etc. (There has
: been a similar formula for years in the ARRL handbook for solenoidal
: inductors, but I've never seen one for toroids.)
:
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Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:35:34 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!psgrain!news.tek.com!tekgp4.cse.tek.com!royle@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Inductance of toroids?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Mike.Czuhajewski%hambbs@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Mike Czuhajewski):
>Does anyone know where I can find the formula for finding the
>inductance of a toroidal inductor? I do NOT mean the formula which is
>derived on the published "Al" values, but rather a formula based on the
>physical measurements such as height, circumferance, etc. (There has
>been a similar formula for years in the ARRL handbook for solenoidal
>inductors, but I've never seen one for toroids.)
>Part Two--Does anyone know the exact methodology used by the industry
>to determine the "Al" value of toroidal forms? Those values are
>usually specified as microhenries per 100 turns for powdered irons, and
>millihenries per 1000 turns for ferrites. The question: Do they wind
>a single turn and extrapolate that, do they wind the 100 or 1000 turns
>and measure resulting inductance, if they do it that way do they then
>turn around and calculate the distributed capacitance and factor that
>out, etc... 73 DE WA8MCQ
L = (4*10^-9*pi*murel*A/l)*n^2
where
L = inductance in henrys
murel = relative permeability of the core
A = core cross-sectional area in cm^2
l = magnetic path length in cm (typically the average of outer & inner
circum.)
n = number of turns
The 4*pi*10^-9 comes from the value of the permeability of free space, and
the use of cm instead of m for A and l.
The term in parentheses is Al in henrys/turn^2.
Al is measured using a fairly large number of turns, because the formula
doesn't hold for sparse windings, particularly with low-permeability
materials or at frequencies at which permeability is low. This is due to
the fact that with sparse windings, not all the flux from each turn is
coupled to every other turn, resulting in reduced inductance. It's also
typically measured at a sufficiently low frequency that the effect of
capacitance is negligible.
Note that the relative permeability is a function of frequency and of flux
density, so the inductance (and Al value) will change with these parameters.
Also, the permeability actually is a complex quantity, leading to frequency-
and flux density-related loss.
Roy Lewallen, W7EL
roy.lewallen@tek.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:03:31 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!arrl.org!zlau@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Project Idea!
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Erik Sorgatz (sorgatz@avatar.tti.com) wrote:
: I keep looking at that Uniden 2600 with the blown final transistor...
: ..and I keep thinking: "How tough would it be to convert this muther
: to 6 meters?" Well...let's see..a new display table in the uP's rom
: so it would read "50-54" instead of "26-30", a new LO, a new mixer,
: maybe keep the IF's as is...modify the mixers a bit, a new final..
: ..some osc in the receiver?...Hmmm??
Depends whether it has to pass spectral purity requirements. It
is pretty easy to get mixing spurs -40 dB down. But, for 6 meters,
you need at least -60, which isn't quite as easy. Problem is, it
isn't unusual for some of those spurs to "race across the passband"
as you tune the rig. Thus, no matter how tight your filters, you
might not be able to filter some of them out, unless you don't mind a
rig that doesn't the edges of the band.
It does seem a bit easier to do with a phasing exciter, since the
mixing products can be avoided or reduced.
Yes, a tracking filter might work, except that sharp tracking filters
don't seem to be available on inexpensive radios yet. You can get
them as a feature on radios that cost more than new cars...
--
Zack Lau KH6CP/1 2 way QRP WAS
8 States on 10 GHz
Internet: zlau@arrl.org 10 grids on 2304 MHz
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:51:52 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!acarhart@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Where might I find..
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Where might I find a make-your-own-AM-transmitter kit?
If it is low enough power, the FCC allows transmissions on the AM band, correct?
Would I be able to power it with 6/12 volts? A car lighter?
Thank you...bye
-Allan Carhart
acarhart@netcom.com
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
"The low-frequency inductance of a toroidal coil of n turns with a
winding of circular corss section of diameter d and a radius of
revolution D/2 inches, as shown in Fig. 22, is
Lo = 0.01595*n^2*[D-(D^2-d^2)^0.5] microhenrys
For toroidal coils in which the turn diameter is much less than the
toroid diameter (i.e., d<0.1D), the inductance is approximately
Lo = 0.007975*d^2*n^2/D microhenrys
Toroidal coil of rectangular cross section. -- When the axial depth of
the winding is h and the inner and outer diameters d1 and d2 inches,
respectively, as shown in Fig. 23, the low-frequency inductance is
Lo = 0.01170*n^2*h*log(d2/d1) microhenrys. "
(This rather old book is still a good reference for a wide variety of
fundamental information. However, not all the formulas are valid over
as wide a range of parameters as you might hope; many are approximations
that start to fall apart at extremes of the parameters, and often where
those extremes start isn't clearly stated. Still, it's a good starting
point. Note that these formulae are all for air-core coils...)
73, K7ITM
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